I am glad there are no rules! Don

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From: phynstar
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Ratio of Boxes to Distance per Different Planters- Any Opinions?


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sense) common sense Hmmmm!




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Well, considering that there may be as many as 10,000 letterboxes in
Dartmoor...

You know, this weekend we did the Critters of Ennisbrook. The walk
was pleasant and easy. There are seven (plus 1 HH) boxes along about
a two mile walk. It was not crowded, at all.

I think my idea of where to put a box is based upon what I wish to
show others. I am usually very gratified to find a couple boxes in
one day. Eight in one is my new record.

And I second the observation that I am very glad there are no rules
in our pasttime.

I have had geocachers trying to liken themselves to us. While we are
both following clues, I tend not to want to get involved with
geocaching. They are lugging objects out to put into a cache, objects
that I do not care about retrieving. Geocaching in National Forests
has really gotten some rangers up in arms. I think in Letterboxing,
we try to take and leave a good impression. (Might be a bumper
sticker in there somewhere *G*) We carve our own stamps (for the most
part), which encourages artistic impulses. We also write clues that
challenge the mind as well as the body.

BTW, last night my daughter carved her first stamp and is placing her
first solitary letterbox today. Ask me if I am proud.

So, there you have my "L's" worth,
J. Ellsworth Weaver
aka Sir Bathazar of 100**100D
http://webpages.charter.net/astroweaver/letterboxing/letterbox.html

WHoooo Hoooooooo Go Ash!!!
Okay so I am locked up sick in a house and all of 100**100D is doing the letterboxing .... but hey when I am better I will be back out there again.... Congratulations Ash on your first solitary "P" !!!!! I'm proud of my friend!!!

pandora "pandy" of 100**100D
----- Original Message -----
From: Sir Balthazar
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:37 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Ratio of Boxes to Distance per Different Planters- Any Opinions?


Well, considering that there may be as many as 10,000 letterboxes in
Dartmoor...

You know, this weekend we did the Critters of Ennisbrook. The walk
was pleasant and easy. There are seven (plus 1 HH) boxes along about
a two mile walk. It was not crowded, at all.

I think my idea of where to put a box is based upon what I wish to
show others. I am usually very gratified to find a couple boxes in
one day. Eight in one is my new record.

And I second the observation that I am very glad there are no rules
in our pasttime.

I have had geocachers trying to liken themselves to us. While we are
both following clues, I tend not to want to get involved with
geocaching. They are lugging objects out to put into a cache, objects
that I do not care about retrieving. Geocaching in National Forests
has really gotten some rangers up in arms. I think in Letterboxing,
we try to take and leave a good impression. (Might be a bumper
sticker in there somewhere *G*) We carve our own stamps (for the most
part), which encourages artistic impulses. We also write clues that
challenge the mind as well as the body.

BTW, last night my daughter carved her first stamp and is placing her
first solitary letterbox today. Ask me if I am proud.

So, there you have my "L's" worth,
J. Ellsworth Weaver
aka Sir Bathazar of 100**100D
http://webpages.charter.net/astroweaver/letterboxing/letterbox.html


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I think there is plenty of room for more boxes, even close by other
boxes. I think more people should plant boxes that take some effort
(scuba diving & wall climbing - great idea!) If you are worried about
too many people overrunning your favorite park, just make your clues
harder to screen out all those who aren't serious puzzlers!

Actually, increasing publicity and increasing traffic should be a
concern at most letterboxes. Its another reason to be very careful
about how far off the trail you hide it. My boxes don't get too many
visitors, yet I've noticed faint paths appearing in the 10 feet from
the trail to the boxes. I'm sure the plant life will be fine in time,
but its making it easier to guess where the box is hidden. I'm also
worried that vandals may follow the trails and discover the boxes by
chance. I'm not sure how to remedy that.

Matt the Rat

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "phynstar" wrote:
> Granted I am fairly new to this pastime, however it seems to me as
> this sport continues to grow, the number of boxes do too...
>
> Well, with the recent small ink in BP magazine and the possibility of
> a book going into print on Letterboxing, it now seems to me that
> things may begin to get hairy. (I believe I even heard mention of
> letterboxing or geocaching [one] on the talk show Sunday Morning on
> CBS this past winter) The number of boxes we may wish to plant in any
> one area may be put into question.
>
> For instance , my first plants were in a very small park. Looking
> back at my choice to put 2 boxes in this one park seems a bit absurd
> (but my eagerness to plant more than one got in the way of my common
> sense). Along with the notion that geocachers may be planting in this
> same park there is always the possibility of another box being
> present. I love being able to travel to an area and know there are
> 10 -12 boxes available in the area. This is not my concern
>
> What I am trying to say is we would benefit the 'sport' if we were
> to 'police' the per centage of boxes planted in any certain park.
> Being sure to get permission, and having knowledge ahead of time of
> what may or may not already be planted, is a must for bettering the
> sport. Maybe this has all been said before, and if it has, Kudos to
> those who have said it. I just think it needs to be mentioned (or re-
> iterated one). Other things to take into consideration of course is
> always the size of the park, the difficulty to the seeker (clues and
> terrain), and if any special skills are needed (scuba diving and
> climbing walls); I would think the harder the trip the more the
> boxes; likewise the easier the trip the fewer the boxes. However,
> what seems easier for one may be difficult for others. And what
> seems like common sense to me may seem like nonsense to others.
>
> Then there are always hitchikers which make for more fun and because
> they move from place to place are the ideal situation. Alas, if it
> weren't for the "stay put" boxes these could not exist....or could
> they...do they? Hmmmm!
>
> Any opinions?
>
>
> phynstar

Well now you got me thinking. We just planted another LB at "Boulder
Rock" which is about 2 miles from the one at North point and about 2
miles from the one at Kaaterskills Falls. The LB has been set but it has
not been officially posted yet but that is being worked on. The North
Lake area will have now three to "capture" and that is a good amount.
The next closer ones are 15 to 20 miles away ...... Do you think this
picture from the "Boulder Rock" ledge should be included in the clues?
It's closer than a stones throw to the LB hiding spot from here..
Rufis "the budster" (J&G&"Bud")

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